However, you might have other priorities, and Tunis gains wiggle room. Only having 49k is little. Let me know your thoughts in the comments! The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. Ottomans should get . Getting the war goal and war score to go up, gives the chance for a good peace deal which makes them weaker and every following war with them easier. Keep attacking them as soon as that truce is up. You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. While if they attack them with you not allied to said nation, it's that big country plus it's allies and then you can start a war with your allies against the Ottoman at the same time. The best way to beat any AI is to let them bleed all their manpower in small stacks, so try to and block the Bosporus if you have naval advantage and let small stacks through (small here being less than 20k or so), then wipe them with a numerical advantage. You can also expand into the Horn of Africa at this point in time. Best advice for beating ottomans is simply stop being intimidated by their numbers and fight them. If I put all of my allies into one battle (Me, France, Venice, Nogai, Genoa) then I might have a chance, but now I've had to dissolve the Venice alliance so I didn't get dragged into a war with just me and Venice. If you don't have all the DLCs, make sure to at least get the Cradle of Civilization DLC. Its also important to consolidate your holdings at home. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to explain the basics of EU4 while building upon them through actual gameplay. Congratulations on restoring the Caliphate! So, currently I'm playing as Lithuania (first game and vanilla, sigh) in 1609 and I've expanded quite a bit, mainly annexing the Livonian Order, Great Horde and Crimea, as well as pushing Russia back a bit. Hit them early and try to divide their territory works great. Europa Universalis IV starts on November 11th 1444, . The country is mountainous and can be tricky to conquer or divert resources to, especially if you need them against Spain. With my aggressive expansion pretty high in Europe, its time we shift away. All my games are achievement runs. They have really high income so privateering in their nodes wouldn't do much. After that, make Paris a state and assign a Pasha to it in the corresponding maintenance screen. The next time they declare war on them, I will also declare war. If you don't have either of these or any dlc, don't worry about religion). I was playing as Byzantium and was able to defeat the ottomans with Poland Austria and Hungary in Early game so just save scum until you can beat them. I'm currently playing a commonwealth run and even dominating muscovy (they still exist but not really) and colonizing siberia, they have double the army/manpower size i do. Currently Spain. Unfortunately not everyone is able to buy all of them. They still haven't taken out mamluks. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. Definitely the Sultan of Rumneeds you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. And while it's faster than walking, it can still take like two years if you need to get your one main fleet back from the East Indies to Europe, which can be really annoying. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. Honestly, when I want to kill them, I just don't stop declaring war. The best option is to wait for the Ottomans to declare war on some other neighbor. I believe I read one time that war exhaustion goes down in relation to your demands, so you if demand nothing then you hope their country explodes in rebels. JavaScript is disabled. The decision makes your country more stable and lets you easily convert all your lands to Sunni if you didnt take humanist ideas before or are really into that. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to explain the basics of EU4 while building upon them through actual gameplay. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. Are the Mamluks still around? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The earlier you consolidate around here, the better it is for you. . Screenshots would be helpful, or at the bare minimum a list of your and the Ottomans' alliances, with some rough idea of their strength and position. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. If you are fiercly religious don't make it your mission to take their clay and convert it but force their country to answer to your god. If youre allied to Naples, call them in only now. For example, in my Italy game I was fighting the Ottomans and their 200k soldiers with only 80k in the 1570's(no allies cause I just didn't stop eating). More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. The whole of the Bosporus should be your main target for conquest. This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. Didn't require too much manpower to take them out. After you declare war on Morocco, focus on landing an army on Sicily and taking down the Spanish and Moroccan holdings in Africa. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. I've hit them several times as the PLC in my most recent games after the 1600s, they're not invincible no matter how many troops they have. Right. Early to Mid-game, wait for them to go to ear with Mamluks - this typically exhausts their manpower and gives some time to move in and siege up territory before they can move their armies back from Egypt. Avoid tough wars by using Spains diplomatic commitments! Press J to jump to the feed. This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. I usually like to set out goals. The Mamluks sit on the main trade nodes directing trade from India and China to Europe. Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. In my case, Hungary got into a war with Austria, which saw both their units occupied. With everyone on different sides, and AI sucks at doing multi front wars, Ottoman will usually go for one country instead of everyone at once, allowing the rests of the nations to siege freely. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. I wanted to do this without wasting my manpower so I can finish off England, France and Poland right after. I decided to take Crete as well, but not yet more of Dalmatia. Prussian troops stackwipe Ottos easy in the 1600s. Over the years, hes developed a similar passion for writing, which he mostly gains during his studies. Make sure to take the cities ofAdenandMasqatas soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. Take at leastIfni, Malaga, Cordoba, Palermo,andMessinato Unify Islam. Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) Guide: Ottomans Made Easy - Late Game We're in the home stretch! They have massive armies, often blob out of control and usually have strong alliances. Focus on taking away their economic base. If Byzantium was at war with the Ottomans, you now become the war leader and can call in all of your strong allies (e.g. You can run up their war exhaustion very easily. To add on to this: Another good time to strike would be right after an important military tech, especially if you can grab it a few years ahead of time. You can now complete the missionsControl the DanubeandConquer Transsylvania, but dont complete them just yet. Who're they allied to? Siege down weak Tunis (and Ottos if you can), then make Ottos break treaties with all their powerful allies. Valve Corporation. You can do so by going to the diplomatic interaction screen, selecting diplomatic feedback and toggling join offensive wars off. I also connected my Crimean holdings to the mainland, so I can defend it more easily. Ideally, you managed to cripple the Spanish armies trapped in Morocco, so the Spanish may not put up much of a fight. You deal with their numbers by stackwiping their troops with quality and composition. Aside from this generic advice, be sure to check whether you can accidentally vassalize your allies. The AI is really pretty terrible, even a mediocre player shouldn't have that much trouble beating them. If you want to spice up lategame i recommend some RP. Ally other countries that have navies. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. It's actually significantly easier to take the Ottomans down the later you go. This has a simple reason: Spain. Then declare (3-4 months later) and invade the opposite front. Build your Navy to fight. If you also have to fight your next target only take cash for shorter truce. Not saying quantity is worse, cause quantity is AMAZING for what it does, which is usually worth it for countries with either eh or downright shitty land and therefore economies, but outclassing the Ottomans is the key to victory in this case. I'd recommend not getting too much warscore. Next, occupy Constantinople and vassalize Byzantium. Afterward, you can focus on expanding your coastal possessions to gain more power in the Horn of Africa trade node. Press J to jump to the feed. Through, ideas, you can make your country less prone to revolt and wealthier. So be prepared. I've read several ways. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. If Albania is still around you can try the Skanderbeg strategy and whittle away their forces.Its much easier to do early game. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. Is there actually a way to check to see if Janissary Decadence is fired, or do I just have to declare on them and see who gets stackwiped? . However, the coastal areas are likely up for grabs. I used to wait until late game to roflstomp them with my Vodka-fueled endless spacemarines but this is no longer an option, since on very hard they blob endlessly and since we share a border in Crimea, war will come. You are using an out of date browser. Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. Arabia shouldnt give you any issues. Play Burgundy for example and it's all going to be right there in one region. Now that youre the Caliphate, the world truly lies at your feet. Ally (a couple) big nation(s) to make them not want to attack me to give me time to prepare. Get 100% warscore and make the release Byzantium or take Constantinople and Edrine to cut them in half (you can core these two provinces). Early game there's always the classic no-CB DOW Byzantium strategy. I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now, but their total units are 173k compared to my 49k. 11 Dec 1444 war Ryzan and take there land as it has feudalism, vassalise Tver if they are in the war. But it is what it is and it's still a great grand operational war game in my view. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Revanchism. Although its tricky to avoid, its possible to increase your chances to keep Fezzan alive long enough to let it fall into your sphere of influence. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is. Simply declare war for your permanent claim on Caffa, and take your cores back. Don't let them. The Ottomans are in a precarious position because they need to essentially control two land masses that are not easily accessible. For your finances throughout this run, trade is instrumental. I'd suggest playing more aggressive in your conquests, or try to botch them early on because that always works best. Decent generals, high morale and good army tradition can be of great help. Yeah, they aren't the scourge of Christendom for nothing. Take all the provinces you need for the Caliphate to finally realize the unification of Islam. Or, just annex Russia and use their force limit. I still had Ajam as a vassal, which gets cores on much of Iran. When the achievement is complete, you move to a new campaign, the year when you end is not important. Ottoman Empire became modern day Turkey lol. Beats conquering, right? If you do that, the AI will continue building troops and go further into debt than today's Greece. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) Wait for them to declare on someone on the south side of the Bosporus and then get your fleet into the channel, declare war, occupy everything in the Balkans and win! Its useful for you to grab important Caucasus provinces early. The Ottoman troops are better than European troops for a large part of the game because of their bonuses, and the fact that they have increased pips. Find the first and second installments of this guide here: Since this Ottomans EU4 guide is so RNG-heavy, youll likely be running into situations that dont play out as planned. Once they do, you attack. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. By doing so, youll deny the Russians a strategically useful area of operations, and protect your core land. Not to mention their ability to tech like hell. The last thing he needs is for an opportunistic Austria + friends to form a coalition, even if it's inccurred making a DoW against Otto, and then have to deal with large stacks of rebels in the midst of two wars. Good allies can be helpful to overwhelm them. What matters is a province's development for force limit, manpower, tax income, etc. What do I do? All rights reserved. If you have questions do please leave them below and I will answer any and all that I'm able to! THIS CAMPAIGN IS BEST VIEWED THROUGH THE PLAYLIST! Just like in actual history, France and the Ottomans make quite natural allies. They are inferior later on. Here are some of the issues I encountered, as well as how you can act on them, should the situation arise. I might be able to get France on my side too. So what i prefer to do is basically base race my opponent and take down any forts blocking my way to their capital. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. You can also take some cash from these extremely wealthy merchant republics. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to exp. However, history wont stop us! Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. I'm just trying out Muscovy once more after not having played for while and lo and behold the Ottoblobs get Crimea for free. , that you get when youve conquered the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula. Pick one difficult achievement from steam (preferably one that is owned by less than 1% of players) and start a campaign with that achievement as a goal. You can also take some holdings on the Arabian peninsula to make future conquest easier. 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A few suggestions on improving existing mechanics: Yeah shipping troops around is not the most fun thing to do for me either. I'd take Constantinople and Edirne so you have a land block of the Bosporus and the Ottos can't move their troops through. Did you find this guide helpful, or did you run into trouble anywhere? After you dealt with the Mamluks, youre the only Great Power left in Arabia. I'm the 3rd great power in the world and they're the 1st. and our If you need a repeatable method, dont annex Morocco after youre done. when you reach tech 19 units, they wont stand a chance, Usually what I do if I know I need to eventually fight the Ottomans (for an achievement). To maximize your trade income, consider addingWealth of Nations to your DLC list! I prefer to leave Ethiopia alone for most of the run, and simply conquer around them. You don't need any military idea groups or military national ideas to wipe out the Ottomans. They're frankly not nearly as difficult to beat as commentary on this sub would have you believe. Since you cant annex vassals during the war, use your moments of peace to start the process. To repeat some more basic info (so you wont have to hop pages all the time), this, We interrupt this guide for a brief section on damage control, From 1500 onwards, its time to fight anything, anywhere, all the time. In the late game, at military tech 19 (for infantry) and tech 18 (for cavalry) The Ottoman units will have less unit pips compared to the western tech group. This might not be as helpful as all the comments but I'll just post my observations: I've noticed ai Ottomans tends to overexert themselves near late game with nonstop wars. When youre annexing a vassal, see if you can concentrate land. How good is your economy? Late game - wait until their troop strength falls below western strength. In this area, you may want to expand recklessly to the point that it nearly breaks your nation. They will then continually build more troops there for you to destroy. Fortunately, this is a coastal province, so you wont have to expand deeply inward. 43.9K subscribers Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Who do the Ottomans have as rivals? If you're lucky, you might start a dog pile. If this doesnt bring their disloyalty above 50, do so to make the annexation process easier. I wasn't attacked even once during my sieges and once I scored 100% I liberated some countries and absorbed enough provinces to get me to around 100% over extension. Might as well ask them to be your vassal! What can you guys suggest? Youre very powerful around this time, so allies might be willing to become vassals. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. They hit a mid game power peak typically that's hard to beat, this is not the best time to try fighting them. Naval superiority would be a good idea if you can get it against the Ottos, to try and prevent the bosphorus and dardanelles crossing. Can you afford mercs? Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. There we have it the end of our EU4 guide, as we made the Ottomans easy! Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). I just said in a different forum two days ago that WitE would be a much better game if Paradox had designed the UI. to grant you a bunch more permanent claims all around. Ottomans also tend not to upgrade forts so it's relatively quick sieging. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. All of this conquest you can do diplomatically, but dont be afraid to declare war if you want things to be a little quicker. That's why my new. disaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. Form Russia and own all of Asia by the end of 1820, defeat the Ottomans as Hungary and get Jerusalem and Mecca. After Military Tech 16 (I believe?) Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) Guide: Ottomans Made Easy Early Game, Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) Guide: Ottomans Made Easy Mid Game, 10 Europa Universalis 4 Beginner Tips for Empire Building, 9 Handy Europa Universalis 4 Cheats to Activate, Battle Crush: The New Multiplayer Battle Brawler by NCSOFT Set to Release in Late 2023, Remorse: The List 10 Xbox Keys Giveaway, 10 Games Releasing In March To Look Out For. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this EU4 Ottomans guide. The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. What military ideas do they have? Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. 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